Re: larger window installations


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Posted by Rene' on September 05, 2002 at 14:01:31:

In Reply to: Re: larger window installations posted by Vic on September 04, 2002 at 18:11:25:

: : : : : I'm in the planning stages of a fairly large window installation (25" x 67"). I have about 1 year experience with glass, but I've never done a window this big. The piece will be framed by a 3" wood boarder. Do I need to use the H channel lead to give the window the correct support, or can I still solder? Would it be a good idea to use 1/4" foil (at the risk of looking ameturish)? I think the design is going to be pretty detailed and curvy, so there will be a lot of solder and puzzle-piece integrity to hold things together. I just don't want the window to slump in 5 or 10 years. Any tips or suggestions?

: : : : You can use ether lead or foil. You can use 1/16"-1/4" foil, whatever looks right. You can mix foil sizes as well. Strenght comes from good design and rebar.

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: : : okay, thanks vic. that makes sense. rebar--is that when you embed wire in the solder between the panes? i'm not sure what kind of wire to use. does it have to have a spiral texture running around it...like rebar used in reinforcing concrete?

: : Wire is not good rebar because it bends easy in all directions. Your stained glass supplier shold have a product called "restrip" that is thin flat copper that gets soldered between the pieces of glass. Another rebar is flat galvinized steel It get soldered to the surface of the window.

: Go to www.warner-criv.com

: click of featured topics at the left of screen under chat board. Click on Rebar 101

Wow. Your article was really helpful. It also brought up a whole lot of questions I never knew to consider...

I think I'm going to go with the fins that you talked about because of how they helped preserve that Tiffany window. My design has smaller, more curved elements to it rather than larger geometrical ones. The fins sound like they will suit my needs because they don't have to be linear. I think a combination of fins and restrip between the glass panels will ensure the strength I'm looking for. does restrip go on the foil or directly on the glass with foil over it? Can fins be patinaed if they're brass?

I was also looking at your discussion with DeBrady and Ernie about installing a panel inside an existing window (because that's what I'm doing, too). When you leave space at the top and bottom for venting, is it actual, physical empty space? or is it concealed by the molding or frame on top or on bottom ("the venting space goes under and over the sash or glass itself."--?)? I'm having my pane framed, so if I leave at least 1/8" between the end of the glass and the beginning of the routed U in the frame, will that take care of the required expansion space? then, the frame will be about 3" wide all around. will that take care of the venting space?

I'm so sorry I'm bombarding you with questions. I really appreciate your advice so far. I guess I need to get a good manual on how to do this.




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