Posted by Angel on May 22, 2002 at 12:53:47:
In Reply to: Re: Lead or Foil posted by Guy Somers on May 22, 2002 at 10:03:40:
It's that Somers kid again. He's moved from taking lunch money away from the little kids on his school playground to bullying aspiring glass artists. It mostly stems from that "all lead" problem. He's been exposed to lead since he crawled around the family shop, cutting his little teeth on lead came.
Anybody who takes this latest pronouncement seriously needs a sense of humor transplant.
Somers Tiffany does thousands of lamps in foil along with the windows in came. I'm betting it's a toss-up as to what they use the most of...came or foil. When strength equates to flexibility, as in unprotected windows, I'll go with Guy's silly, pseudo-arrogant statement. When it's plain, rigid strength along with lighter weight and flexibility of design, foil comes in a little bit ahead. Came pieces over a certain size need as much re-inforcement as foiled. Lead can sag without extra strengthening. We're talking apples and kiwis here.
You have a CHURCH...use lead. You wanna make small windows lamps or cabinets...go with foil. Little Guy knows as well as anyody that each takes excellence of technique...and he also knows that he's talking mostly to hobbyists here...not Pros in production. Easy audience to intimidate. Hold on to your lunch money, kids.
I just watched an old DVD of Monty Python's Holy Grail and one of the scenes in it applies here. Guy, I'm standing on the castle tower....I MOON in your direction...just wish I had a COW to catapult over the walls at you (too bad we can't play with the original dialogue here).
Isn't ANYBODY going to debate this stuff? You foil people are just gonna SIT there and go..."hmmmmmm"? No guts...no interest and no fun, people.
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: Now that's bad advice. I don't normally read this board but Gary, that's ridicules to tell someone that foil is stronger. Lead IS stronger because it is more flexible. Putty brushed into the lead also cushions the glass. 4' x 10-1/2" - snap, crackle & pop!
: The only reason we suggest to our students & customers to work with foil is because they lack the talent and precision to work with lead came.
: And so do most professional studios! All of our flat work is lead. Copperfoil is for lamps & small items and those who are not technically advanced.